Yes, you are right— 'They (our Sarasvat Gaudiya guru-varga) are not even ordinary human being, they are more than beast'
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All Glories to Śrī Śrī Guru and Gaurāṅga
Date 11.04.2024
Yes, You are right— ‘They (Our Sarasvat Gauḍīya guru-varga) are not even ordinary human being, they are more than beast’.
Gauḍīya Goṣṭhī pati Śrī Śrīla Bhakti Siddhānta Sarasvatī Gosvāmī Ṭhākura Prabhupāda Paramahaṁsa Jagadguru said that— “One who is devoid of ānugatya (śuddha guru-Vaiṣṇava ānugatya) is just like a beast.” Then how those 100% inclined (ānugatya) Sarasvat Gauḍīya guru-varga (those great exalted genuine disciples of The Prabhupāda) become beast as per your darśanik vichar? That is the most vital question in front of the whole Sarasvat Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇava saṅga. Just like those dirty comments of Śiśupāla could not touch Śrī Kṛṣṇa— The Supreme Lord Saccidānanda Vigraha, similarly all your dirty comments could not touch the transcendental figures of our Sarasvat Gauḍīya guru-varga—those who are the genuine disciples of The Prabhupāda, only this can destroy you and your society together with all of your followers, nothing else. We think that even you have not seen the aprākṛta shadow of The Prabhupāda in your whole life, then what to speak about your dīkṣā with him! The Prabhupāda used to say that— “Śrī Gauḍīya Math cannot have and actually does not have anything in common with those, who duplicitously join Gauḍīya Math with a motive to misuse Divine Knowledge for the service of their own selfish ends. Feigned dīkṣā and obtainment of Divine Knowledge are never one and the same. Śrī Caitanya and His sincere devotees are eternally present in Śrī Gauḍīya Math. All those owlish persons who are incapable of seeing the light are called māyāvādīs, karmis and wayward non-devotees.” —
from the letter by Śrīla Prabhupāda Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī
October 20, 1928
Know it for sure, that Absolute Truth can never get popularity, it is so rare that even in dream we cannot imagine. Life is going, but we are playing (playing with lābha, pūjā, pratiṣṭhā), so foolish and idiot we are. The Prabhupāda used to say that— “The moment we come to know about that Absolute Truth, then and there we should take immediate action towards that end.” But we are always busy with politics. Someone may think that time is money, but Śrīla Prabhupāda used to say that— “Time is paramartha”, so each and every fraction of second should be utilised in hari-bhajana. This is really a matter of great regret that we are ready to sacrifice our life unto the feet of Māyādevī (I mean unto the feet of kapat ācārya who is just a fallen soul like me), what to speak more—the condition of such fallen ācārya is more and more deplorable than his disciple, because his disciple at least avoid committing vaiṣṇava aparādha by abusing and criticising those great great exalted guru-Vaiṣṇavas. Life is very very unstable, so why should we take such a great risk to waste our invaluable time of our life for the protection and preservation of the false ego of a false ācārya—who is always making great great mistakes and always misguiding us all the way. Pitamaha Bhishma Deva who is one among those 12 mahājanas, he (The great Vaiṣṇava) has given a piece of nice useful advice to us that—
guror apy avaliptasya kāryākāryam ajānataḥ
utpatha-pratipannasya parityāgo vidhīyate
(Mahābhārata, Udyoga-parva 179.25)
“One should not be hesitant in reprimanding the guru because: “It is one’s duty to give up a guru who cannot teach the disciple what he should do and what he should not do, and who takes the wrong path, either because of bad association or because he is opposed to Vaiṣṇavas.”
This is not at all the question of fighting or politics, rather this is the most vital question of the survival of our real self, because for infinity period we are travelling in this material world. In course of our travelling through 14 worlds by chance we can get the scope to meet with a genuine sādhu who is in the line of śrauta paramparā exactly. At least māyāvādī sannyāsī leader—Prakashananda Sarasvatī was able to declare with open heart that their previous founder ācārya Sankrācārya was wrong, that much straightforward mood to accept the unalloyed truth should be there with us. What to do? No solution at all visible. Śuddha guru-Vaiṣṇavas are our most intimate friends and they are our absolute benefactors, but really it is a matter of great regret that we think them our great enemy. Śrīla Prabhupāda used to say that— “Suppression of fact is a great offence, such guru—who always like to suppress the fact and like to misguide us should be left forever.” Also, Śrīla Prabhupāda often used to say that— “Fraud (kapat) sādhu should be brought into notice.” ‘This is called bhakti’— he used to say. Now if you like to take revenge against us for exposing those Absolute Truths, then you are going to lose everything, because you are already derailed from the track of the śrauta panthā and again going to lose the possibility of getting in touch with the Absolute Truth through guru paramparā because believe us or not we have no intention to pick up enmity with anybody. Now it is up to you—what to do and what not to do. Anyway, you must withdraw all those dirty remarks and wrong siddhānta vichars (already preserved by your society in internet for long time) published in the form of books, papers, comments or kathas (both in soft and hard form).
The same—Śrīla Śrīdhar Gosvāmī Maharaj wanted to advice your society before leaving his body (The voice document link given here with):
Our heart is as small as like a crab, but we will have to extend our heart up to infinity, so that we can come in contact with Ananta Deva. Because only in the background of Ananta Deva, the Supreme Lord can get suitable accomodation. How we can discover universal love inside the heart of a great paramahaṁsa-Vaiṣṇava sādhu, because they are always in contact with Bhagavan Ananta Deva, to realize the advaya-jñāna-tattva from heart. They can see each and everything or each and everybody in relation to the Supreme Lord. But those who are in Māyā, they have their limitation of darśana, that is why question of “Me” and “Mine” arise. We must discuss the following śloka from Upaniṣad:
yasmin sarvāṇi bhūtāni ātmaivābhūd vijānataḥ |
tatra ko mohaḥ kaḥ śoka ekatvamanupaśyataḥ ||
(Īśopaniṣad 7)
"He in whom the whole creation is felt like existing in himself, in that case were from the question of infatuation and discrimination can arise, because he can feel the oneness in diversity."
That means—When I can see the whole worldly beings just like myself, I mean in relation to the supersoul—paramātmā—then where from the question of divisive attitude like ‘you or me‘ can arise—which is completely based on the passionate conception or bhāva of repent and infatuation. When I can feel from heart that I’m the worst creature in this creation then and only then I can develop ‘tṛṇād api sunīcena bhāva’ to qualify for hari kīrtana as was already specified by Śrīman Mahāprabhu Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya Deva, not before that. This is a matter of great concern for us that how far-how much we are away from that Absolute Truth we cannot realise this point still today. Also, Śrīla Prabhupāda used to say that— “Preaching can be done both ways, one is positive way and the other is negative way. Śiśupāla, Dantavakra, Kaṁsā—they all have done massive preaching (negative preaching) for Kṛṣṇa.” Negative preaching is very very fast preaching procedure but the result is very very dangerous, as you are feeling today every fraction of second, I mean by this kind of negative preaching bhakti can never be installed inside the heart of anybody, not even inside the heart of the preacher himself, so in this way only the bad smell of abhakti can spread around the world to contaminate the whole environment of the bhajana field. Only billions of dollars can come, nothing else. Ultimately that kind of huge amount of lābha, pūjā, pratiṣṭhā can make us crazy to commit great offence unto the lotus feet of those great exalted guru-Vaiṣṇavas. This is not at all blessing, rather this should be known as dangerous curse (the result of offence committed unto the lotus feet of guru- Vaiṣṇava) which can destroy our spiritual life. External lābha, pūjā, pratiṣṭhā can be compared with the stool of pig or hog as per the siddhānta vichar of The Prabhupāda. For your kind information we are going to give you the link to go through the detailed commentary by Śrīla Baba Maharaj on ‘Vaiṣṇava Ke’, the writings by Śrīla Prabhupāda.
When you can say that— ‘They (Our Sarasvat Gauḍīya guru-varga) are not even ordinary human being’— then surely Śuddha Sarasvatī mean to say that they are aprākṛta Vaikuṇṭha pārṣada of The Prabhupāda. Again, when you say that ‘They are more than a beast’—then surely Śuddha Sarasvatī mean to say that— They are the best of all, more and more near to the Godhead or more than Bhagavan Himself (please visit the following link to all those dirty comments and letters written by A.C. Bhakti Vedanta Swami Maharaj).
Muralidhar Das: Disciple of Śrīla Bhakti Rakshak Śrīdhar Gosvāmī Maharaj. He left ISKCON and took initiation from Srila Sridhar Maharaj.
“I have had nothing to do with ISKCON since I left in 1973. ISKCON was rotten then, and the truth is that Śrīla Prabhupāda (A.C Bhaktivedanta Svami Maharaj) himself allowed people in leadership roles to remain in their roles even after they were exposed, as when Bhavananda was exposed for what he did with that man in the cowshed at Mayapur. This bullshit about Śrīla Prabhupāda’s (A.C Bhaktivedanta Svami Maharaj) godbrothers being in bad association, is very toxic. I know one Prabhupāda (A.C Bhaktivedanta Svami Maharaj) disciple who thinks that it was the offences to Śrīla Prabhupāda’s (A.C Bhaktivedanta Svami Maharaj) Godbrothers that is the real cause of ISKCON turned into another Catholic Church, devoid of any higher understanding.”
Śiśupāla is just equal to Pashupala (the leader or chairman of all beast), so always being in the association of those beasts, he himself became a beast. A real tattva vid jñāni sādhu puruṣa can be known by his guru-Vaiṣṇava niṣṭhā, sampradāya niṣṭhā, nāma niṣṭhā or Viśuddha śrauta Vani Siddhānta niṣṭhā, but you have nothing at all, this has been proved from the very beginning. If in your life guru-Vaiṣṇava niṣṭhā gone, sampradāya niṣṭhā gone, nama niṣṭhā gone or viśuddha śrauta vani siddhānta niṣṭhā all gone, then what can be left in your life! Only and only those dirty criticisms are your property. Though you always deny openly your link with Sarasvat Gauḍīya guru-paramparā (I mean with Sarasvat Gauḍīya guru-varga and Śrī Gauḍīya Math) still you like to identify yourself as the disciple of The Prabhupāda, how it is possible we cannot understand! If you at all have genuine link with The Prabhupāda—then how it is possible for you to write or speak all wrong fanciful siddhānta vichars! You can make fool of the whole world as an international preacher, but it is just impossible for you to make fool of us—the genuine followers of The Prabhupāda, so you can pass remark that ‘Kalki Avatār is off in this particular Kali’, you can pass remark that ‘female ācārya is equally authentic like the male ācārya’, you can pass remark that ‘ṛtvik-procedure of giving dīkṣā is authentic’, you can pass remark that ‘sannyāsa can be given to somebody without any Vedic link’, you can pass remark that ‘Pūtanā got the same transcendental platform like Yaśodā Ma’, you can pass remark that ‘In hari-nāma mahā-mantra ‘Rāma’ refers to ‘Balarāma’, you can pass remark that ‘All Śrī Gauḍīya Math books and literatures should be avoided by our society' to insult Śrīla Prabhupāda and all Gauḍīya guru-varga together with Śrī Gauḍīya Math.
For your kind information we are going to quote from your website about all those random siddhāntas on jīva-tattva by your Founder Acārya.
750520 - Lecture SB 06.01.01-4 - Melbourne
Devotee (2): Is the original body of the spirit soul a human form?
Madhudviṣa: The question is that whether the eternal form of the spirit soul is a human form, or is it . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes, human form. God is also human form. "Man is made after the shape of God." I think there is in the Bible. Is it not? So God is also like human form. Here you see Kṛṣṇa, two hands, two legs.
Hari-śauri: How do we understand, then, that there are peacocks and flowers and trees in the spiritual world? Are these not eternal forms?
Prabhupāda: Yes. They are more covered. Just like if you cover your body with blanket, the hands and legs are invisible. But you are not the blanket. So the trees and plants, they are more covered. They are not in full manifestation. The human form is the full manifestation of the soul.
Hari-śauri: They are covered in the spiritual world?
Madhudviṣa: He is asking if they were actually covered in the spiritual world as well.
Prabhupāda: Not in the spiritual world. There that is voluntary. Some devotee wants to serve Kṛṣṇa as flower; they become flower there. (laughter) If I want that "As a flower I shall lie down at the lotus feet of Kṛṣṇa," he becomes flower, voluntarily. And he can change his . . . from flower to human body. That is spiritual life. There is no restriction. If some devotee wants to serve Kṛṣṇa as cow, he serves Kṛṣṇa as cow, as calf, as flower, as plant, as water, as ground, field, or as father, as mother, as friend, as beloved—anything. Ye yathā mām prapadyante tāṁs tathaiva bhajāmy aham (BG 4.11). That is Kṛṣṇa's all-powerfulness, spiritual life.
We cannot understand that where from this kind of random siddhāntas came regarding all those above-mentioned comments by your Founder Acārya!
Gauḍīya Goṣṭhī pati Śrī Śrīla Bhakti Siddhānta Sarasvatī Gosvāmī Ṭhākura Prabhupāda Jagadguru said that— “We Gauḍīyas must have some specialities.” Speciality regarding siddhānta vichar and sevā (Śrīla Prabhupāda wanted to indicate this point). If we can go deep into the analytical vichar of this exceptional scientific siddhānta of Śrīla Prabhupāda, then we can realise that sevā and siddhānta both are almost same to each other, because when we can find Gauḍīya siddhānta vichar in applied form, then this is called sevā, or just opposite way, when viśuddha sevā can take a verbal or written form (by great exalted guru-Vaiṣṇavas), then this becomes siddhānta vichar, so Gauḍīya siddhānta must have some eternal form, which can be personified as sevā form. Sevā means to seek the complete satisfaction of that Absolute Sevaya Vigraha (The Supreme Lord). Here viśuddha bhakti ācaraṇa is very very important factor as was shown by the Supreme Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya Mahāprabhu who was in the guise of a very very pure devotee (‘vipralambha bhāva vigraha'). Śrīman Mahāprabhu and our Gauḍīya guru-varga never took any garland from any matajis or never appointed any matajis in preaching field (beautiful ladies). Now point is that if our inside bhāva gone, then we can become a kapat devotee like monkey (as was shown by Śrīman Mahāprabhu to Raghunath Das Gosvāmī Pada for our teachings). It is quite natural that Absolute Truth can never get popularity, because such candidate is very very rare in the whole world who can accept this Absolute Truth from heart. From Katho Upaniṣad (1.2.7) we know the following śloka in favour of the above siddhānta vichar—
śravaṇāyāpi bahubhiryo na labhyaḥ śṛṇvanto'pi bahavo yaṃ na vidyuḥ |
āścaryo vaktā kuśalo'sya labdhāścaryo jñātā kuśalānuśiṣṭaḥ || 7 ||
"Who cannot be attained even for hearing by many; whom, many though hearing, do not know; the expounder of him is a wonder; and able, the attainer of him; a wonder, the knower of him instructed by the able."
Very few have the great fortune of hearing about the soul. Among the few who hear about it, most cannot understand it, because it is hard to find a guru who is genuine seer of the truth. Such a qualified, genuine guru, is very rare. Only those who follow his teachings can realise the truth and become expert in the science of bhakti. Such bona fide disciples are also very rare.
A bonafide spiritual master is qualitatively one with Kṛṣṇa
sa vai priyatamaś cātmā
yato na bhayam aṇv api
iti veda sa vai vidvān
yo vidvān sa gurur hariḥ
(ŚB 4.29.51)
"One who is engaged in devotional service has not the least fear in material existence. This is because the Supreme Personality of Godhead is the Supersoul and friend of everyone. One who knows this secret is actually educated, and one thus educated can become the spiritual master of the world. One who is an actually bona fide spiritual master, representative of Kṛṣṇa, is not different from Kṛṣṇa."
Because the Supreme Personality of Godhead is the Supersoul and friend of all living beings, one who is engaged in His devotional service does not have the least fear or disturbance in material existence. One who knows this secret is actually enlightened. Such a bona fide guru is qualitatively one with Kṛṣṇa and His direct representative in the material world.
Never mind, excuse us. Thanks a lot.
Truly yours in the service of Guru-Gauranga and Go-Mata
We all the members of Sri Bhakti Siddhanta Vani Seva Trust—the honest and sincere followers of Sri Srila Bhakti Siddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Thakur Prabhupada Paramhamsa Jagadguru (Gaudiya Goshtipati) on behalf of the whole Sarasvat Gaudiya Vaishnava Sangha.
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